{"id":3723,"date":"2011-04-02T09:35:59","date_gmt":"2011-04-02T17:35:59","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/artinsilver.com\/blog\/?p=3723"},"modified":"2023-02-22T14:36:30","modified_gmt":"2023-02-22T22:36:30","slug":"copper-and-silver-mokume-gane-from-metal-clay","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/artinsilver.com\/blog\/2011\/04\/02\/copper-and-silver-mokume-gane-from-metal-clay\/","title":{"rendered":"Copper and Silver Mokume-gane from Metal Clay"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I didn&#8217;t think it was possible to make mokume-gane with a combination of copper and silver clay. I knew that the two metals won&#8217;t stick to each other, and if they do, they will alloy into a messy blob. I did try to make a gradient surface with copper and silver and ended up with sad results. But then someone asked me &#8220;Have you tried?&#8221;, and since then I couldn&#8217;t get the idea out of my head.<\/p>\n<p>What if, I speculated, I fire at such a temperature where the two metals start to bond but not alloy yet? If this works, then it&#8217;s all about finding the correct temperature. (Whenever I ask my husband for his opinion on issues like this, he says: &#8220;firing schedule.&#8221;) The piece featured in this posting is my first attempt, no loss of silver whatsoever. Here is what I did:<\/p>\n<p>I made the piece (see more information below).<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"frame-outer  aligncenter size-medium wp-image-3724\"><span><span><span><span><a href=\"http:\/\/artinsilver.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/04\/t-01.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/artinsilver.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/04\/t-01-300x272.jpg\" alt=\"\" title=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"272\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-3724\" srcset=\"http:\/\/artinsilver.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/04\/t-01-300x272.jpg 300w, http:\/\/artinsilver.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/04\/t-01.jpg 504w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p>I used a front-loader muffle kiln with a fiber blanket box. I fired the first phase on top of carbon: full speed to 1100\u00b0F\/538\u00b0C, holding 10 minutes. To be safe, I fired <em>inside<\/em> carbon for 30 minutes.  This is how it looked after the fires phase:<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"frame-outer  aligncenter size-medium wp-image-3725\"><span><span><span><span><a href=\"http:\/\/artinsilver.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/04\/t-02..jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/artinsilver.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/04\/t-02.-300x249.jpg\" alt=\"\" title=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"249\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-3725\" srcset=\"http:\/\/artinsilver.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/04\/t-02.-300x249.jpg 300w, http:\/\/artinsilver.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/04\/t-02..jpg 504w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p>If I had made this piece with White Bronze (which I have done in the past), the White Bronze part would look almost as dark as the copper. You can see how white the silver areas are.<\/p>\n<p>Then I started the second phase at the low temperature of 1200\u00b0F\/650\u00b0C. Fired for 2 hours in carbon. I did not try to break the piece! Since the backing layer is copper, which is hard to sinter at this temperature, I sanded the back of it with 220-grit sandpaper. I saw some powdery areas.<\/p>\n<p>I raised the temperature 20 degrees at a time. Each time I fired about 1:30 hours. The piece was fully sintered at 1320\u00b0F\/716\u00b0C.<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"frame-outer  aligncenter size-medium wp-image-3726\"><span><span><span><span><a href=\"http:\/\/artinsilver.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/04\/t-03.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/artinsilver.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/04\/t-03-300x258.jpg\" alt=\"\" title=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"258\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-3726\" srcset=\"http:\/\/artinsilver.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/04\/t-03-300x258.jpg 300w, http:\/\/artinsilver.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/04\/t-03.jpg 432w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span>.<\/p>\n<p>The mokume-gane part is treated with Baldwin&#8217;s Patina.<\/p>\n<p>The question is: did the piece sinter because it was fired at the correct temperature, or because it was fired so many times? <\/p>\n<p>When I fire mokume-gane with copper and White Bronze, I repeat the second phase of firing, to compensate for the low temperature. Surprisingly, in my front-loader, I fire White Bronze at exactly this temperature (1320\u00b0F\/716\u00b0C).  I am going to assume that what made it work is both temperature and repetition, so in my next attempt, I am going to use exactly the firing schedule that I use for copper and White Bronze (all firing schedules can be found in my <a href=\"http:\/\/artinsilver.com\/Quick-fire_clay_instruction_manual.pdf\">instruction manual<\/a>).<\/p>\n<p>As for constructing this piece: regretfully, I cannot give instructions here for making this mokume-gane design and others because this is what I currently teach in my travel-teaching workshops, and it would be unfair to the people who pay to take these workshops. As far as I know, there are still a few spots available is my workshops in Dallas (with PMC Connection), TX; Brighton, MI and Saint Joseph, MI; and Rochester, NY (for details see my <a href=\"http:\/\/www.artinsilver.com\/Hadars-teaching-schedule-2010.pdf\">travel teaching schedule<\/a>). There is also room in my Intensive classes at my studio. The rest of the workshops seem to be full. <\/p>\n<p>Or, you can wait for my upcoming book, which includes more than 50 projects for different mokume-gane designs and techniques.<\/p>\n<p>My thanks to Mary Ellin D\u2019Agostino for her tips and suggestions.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I didn&#8217;t think it was possible to make mokume-gane with a combination of copper and silver clay. I knew that the two metals won&#8217;t stick to each other, and if they do, they will alloy into a messy blob. 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